Coronavirus response in Brazil, Mexico; Surveillance; China’s data | World In :60 | GZERO Media

Coronavirus response in Brazil, Mexico; Surveillance; China’s data | World In :60 | GZERO Media


Hi, everybody. Ian Bremmer here and I have your World In 60 Seconds. Maybe a tiny bit more than that. It is coronavirus crisis, after all. Here they are, on my phone. Well, they’re abysmal. I mean, frankly, you look at Brazil and Mexico, and President Trump looks like a model of statesmanship in comparison. I swear that’s true. In both cases, you have leaders that are saying this isn’t a crisis. It shouldn’t be taken so seriously. Don’t do shutdowns. And in the case of Mexico, they’re still pushing austerity. What a disaster. They’re really going to suffer. They have nowhere near the kind of resilience or cash on hand that say the Americans, the Europeans, the Japanese do. It’s really, really sad. Oh, absolutely. And in some cases, that will also lead to a bigger power grab of would be authoritarian leaning governments that are actually democracies. Viktor Orbán, for example, in Hungary, a much greater expansion of direct control over his country, that Europeans that aren’t distracted with coronavirus themselves, aren’t going to do anything to punish him in response. That’s kind of where we are. But I think certainly over the course of the next year, in order to get people back to work, you’re going to see much more surveillance of individuals, much more data that will be required, available for governments, for corporations. Look at what they’re doing, not just in China, but also South Korea and Singapore, where if you were a suspected positive, you know, you’re got an app on your phone or a box, a little box that you’re carrying, and it says exactly where you’ve been. Let’s you know, if you can or can’t go into a building. Makes that available to other people. I think that’s probably going to be coming soon to a theater near you. Americans won’t be happy about it. They won’t be comfortable with it. But getting the economy going again will be seen to be the top priority. It’s getting close to being over at least as long as they don’t have further outbreaks from external sources. Now, they are not actually releasing data on asymptomatic cases. They’re tracking it. They’re collecting it. But they’re not releasing it. Which implies they don’t want us to know. And it’s also problematic for scientists internationally who need that information to understand the trajectory of explosion and diminution of cases in China. We’d much rather if they actually give us that information. But it’s pretty clear that they are not covering up at this point any significant outbreaks. The people themselves would be getting that information out. It would be very hard for China to do it and they’d be taking a lot of risks domestically. The new cases they’re getting are almost all coming from outside the country and they are under government mandated and supervised quarantine. And of course, the numbers of people traveling to China right now is de minimis. Given the nature of the authoritarian state and the extraordinary control they have over their borders, I would say the coronavirus is close to being over right now in China. Again, always capable to see a new outbreak because the science just doesn’t yet know as much as they would like to, especially about asymptomatic transmission and how long you might be contagious when it’s in your body. Also, potential mutations from coronavirus, which we’re just starting to see the beginning of, though most of those have been less lethal, less fatal. But also, potentially more transmissible as they’ve been popping up. So, that’s kind of where we are on China right now. That means their economy should be able to really fully restart by the beginning of May, though, of course, restart with a lot less consumer demand, both in the United States and around the world. And, of course, in China itself. So, you know, we are seeing the upside of authoritarian regimes that are technologically empowered. And by the way, I posted on Twitter the other day a short video on from Nanjing, China, about 12 minutes long, that shows just how the Chinese government was able to respond to coronavirus. Across society. Inside taxi cabs. In places of work. In public transport. Around infrastructure. It’s humbling. It’s obviously chilling in terms of the surveillance society. And it also is something that clearly the Americans, the Europeans could not possibly do in our societies. So, you know, as quickly as we were able to contain coronavirus in China, it is hard to imagine that you could have an outcome like that in any other real major economy in the world. That’s it for me. And I’ll see you all again next week.

10 Replies to “Coronavirus response in Brazil, Mexico; Surveillance; China’s data | World In :60 | GZERO Media”

  1. Surveillance capitalism begins a new level with our new digital currencies! Loved hearing you speak at oracle open world last oct when I asked you about our currency shift. Keep it up Mr bremmer and gzero

  2. Brazilian businesspeople criticizing measures to combat the Coronavirus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmg7T2UgUug

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